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John STEWART and Janet DEWAR?DUER in Callander, 1780-1800

 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: John STEWART and Janet DEWAR?DUER in Callander, 1780-1800 Reply with quote

I'm trying to identify the following family, previously believed to belong to the Stewarts of Dalveich, line 1, and now shown not to be so. Any suggestions would be welcome.

    John STEWART (b. ca. 1750) and Janet DEWAR/DEUR/DUER, m 17 AUG 1782 in Kilmadock and 30 AUG 1782 in Callander
      1. John STEWART, 8/12 OCT 1783 in Callander (mother: Janet Deur)
      2. William STEWART, 25/25 AUG 1786 in Callander (mother: Janet Duer)
      3. Jean STEWART, 25/25 AUG 1786, Callander (mother: Janet Duer)
      4. Daniel STEWART, 27 JUN 1788, Callander (mother: Janet Dewar), schoolmaster in Doune (shown in 1841, 1851)
      5. John STEWART, 1/12 JUL 1790, Callander
      6. Duncan STEWART, 5 MAY 1792, Callander
      7. Alexander STEWART, 27 May 1792, Callander
      8. Thomas STEWART, 6/6 APR 1795, Callander
      9. Ann STEWART, 17/20 OCT 1797, Callander, m 24 DEC 1833 in Callander to Alexander MACFARLAN
        1. Alexander MacFarlan, 23/27 SEP 1834 in Callander (found residing with his uncle, Daniel Stewart in 1841 and 1851)
        2. John Stewart MacFarlan, 7/15 APR 1838 in Callander (found residing with his uncle, Daniel Stewart in 1851)
        3. Daniel MacFarlane, 3/13 APR 1840 in Callander


Daniel Stewart, Schoolmaster in Doune

1841 census: Daniel Stewart, b abt 1796 in Perthshire, res Doune School Lane, Kilmadock, occ teacher, residing with Janet McArthur, servant, age 15, and Alex McFarlan, age 6 (no relationship given).

1851 census: Daniel Stewart, b 1790 in Callander, res 6 Church St., Doune, Kilmadock, occ schoolmaster
sister, Jean Stewart, b, 1788 in Callander, occ domestic
Ann Mclaren, b 1831 in Kilmadock, servant
Alexander McFarlane, nephew, b 1836 in Callander, scholar
John McFarlane, nephew, b. 1840 in Callander, scholar

Mackay, in his book, Doune Historical Notes, cites that sometime around 1818 Daniel Stewart, schoolmaster in Doune, became secretary of the Kilmadock Parish Savings Bank in Doune. In 1840 he became the first Doune agent of the Glasgow Union Banking Company (later known as the Union Bank of Scotland). In 1852 a man named William Morrison broke into Daniel Stewart's house by way of a window and stole a metal box containing just over £1000 (equivalent to about £60,000/$120,000 US/$150,000 Cdn today). The money was said to have been hidden under the schoolmaster's bed. Morrison was caught and sentenced to 14 years transportation to one of the colonies. The indictment also identifies Daniel's sister, Jean Stewart, as another victim of the crime; she had a thimble stolen.

William Morrison - Robber
Colleen Caygun, a descendant of William Morrison contacted us confirming that Morrison was tried and convicted on 21 Jul 1852 at Edinburgh and transported on 20 Sep 1856 to Australia and sentenced to 14 years. He was forced to leave behind a wife and two sons whom he never saw again. He eventually took a new wife in Australia and had a second family of 8 children whose descendants continue in Australia to this day.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ryk

All the children were born in Portnellan, Callander parish. If John's father was John (as indicated by birth names) his parents might be John Stewart and Agnes McVey who had a son John born 3 May 1736 in Port of Menteith parish. There's no place given for John's birth in 1736, but he had siblings born in Blar-rae and Drunkie in Port of Menteith parish. I can't find Blar-rae but Drunkie is just up the hill from Loch Vennachar and Portnellan.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belinda
Thanks for the lead. Hmm, Portnellan, eh? Does that make them you Stewarts?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOS Gartnafuaran VII "Port-an-ealan" has the following:

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John Stewart, late tenant there, left four sons:
    1. John, his successor pays £40 of rent
    2. James, [a] gardener in North America
    3. George, a gardener in Northampton in England
    4. Donald, [a] parochial schoolmaster in Doune and [a] student of Divinity


Exclamation This matches on the following:
1. Donald is a schoolmaster in Doune
2. Donald shows no children
3. Donald is son of John
4. Donald has a brother, John
5. This family comes from Portnellan

Question But it doesn't match on the other brothers: George and James.

However, I just checked your Portnellan Report and I see this matches with your own accounting of the Portnellan family (albeit unconfirmed).

Well, I think we can now confirm this as Gartnafuaran Branch VII. I am moving this thread to the Gartnafuaran section.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Dewar/Stewart/Buchanan Reply with quote

Ryk, here is what I have
Jean BUCHANAN born Friday 27th November 1722 d/o John and Janet B.
married 5th March 1747 in Callander, Donald Dewar of Calziebohalzie Bap Friday 11 Sep. 1722 in Kilmadock s/o John DEWAR and Mary MCLERAN, they had 12 known Children all born Kilmadock
1] Mary b. 1748 died young
2] John b, 1750
3] Janet b. 1752
4] Elisabeth b. 1753
5] Margaret b. 1755
6] Janet, b. 1757 she married John STEWART 17 Aug 1782 & d,4 Nov 1827 and is buried in Kilmahog cemetery
7] Mary, b. 1759
8] Katharine, b. 1761
9] Margaret, b. 1763 she married James FERGUSON HAVE DETAILS
10] Christian, b. 1765 she married a Ferguson
11] Agnes, b. 1768 married Alexander MCNEE 1792
12] Jean or Jane, b. c1763 Married James MCNIE 1788

John STEWART and Janet DEWAR <here> John born 1740 Portnellan, died Sunday 1st Aug 1802 in Portnellan
Children
1] John b. 1783
2] William b. 1786
3] Jean, b. 1786 Twin Died 1866 Kilmahog M.I 25
4] Daniel, b. 1788 D. 1857
5] John, b 1790, D. 1833
6] Alexander b. 1792 D. 1858
7] Duncan b. ?
8] Thomas b. 1795
9] Anne b. 1797 Married 1833 Alexander MCFARLANE

all this and more can be found at <http>
chuck has done a wonderful job with my old file

Thank you Belinda for setting me with the other John STEWART

regards Malcolm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following posts were moved from the other John Stewart and Janet Dewar thread which has now been closed so that this conversation can stay in one place.

Malcolm the elder wrote:
It would appear that the John STEWART who married Janet DEWAR was not born in Portnellan, although he died there,

It appears at the moment that this is his family

John STUART, birthplace could be Port of Monteith, date unknown; married 29 July 1729 in Port of Monteith Agnes MCVEY who was born about 1700 in Port?
Child 1] Thomas STEWART born 1730 in Port married 1755 Janet SIMMIE
Child 2] William STUART, born 1732
Child 3] John STEWART born 1736 he married Janet DEWAR
Child 4] Margaret STEWART born 1742 nothing known Yet

John Mitchells book M.I's of south Perth page 102 and entry #25
John Stewart farmer portnellan1.8.1802, 66, W Janet Dewar 4.11.1827 70 s John farmer Portnellan 21.5.1833 42, s Daniel banker Doune 21.3.1857 69, s Alex 10.3.1858 66, s John inf, s Wm inf, da Jane 30.11.1866 80; 1859 (in a row of post-1855 tombstones of Stewarts)
<why> and I better state that it is Kilmahog cemetery

Malcolm


Belinda wrote:
Hi Malcolm

I agree that it's likely that the John Stewart who married Janet Dewar and had children in Portnellan is probably the John Stuart who was bapt 3 May 1736 in Port of Menteith, son of John Stuart and Agnes McVey.

Belinda

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted on behalf of Malcolm The Elder:

Malcolm the Elder (via email) wrote:
while transcribing Vol.2
of film #102696 Marriages I found a Baptism entry, for, "John STEWART And
Jannet DEWAR in Portnellan had a daughter born the 17th and baptised 20th
October 1797 called Anne"

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