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Glenbucky Branch II

 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Glenbucky Branch II Reply with quote

Ryk, while scrabbling round in the Glenbucky branches I think I've found records for Alexander, Tacksman Invernenty Braes of Balqr. He's said to have had one son, Robert, Cottager Allanabreak, Aberfoil, who I believe was illegitimate. Details are:

1. Alexander STEWART Tacksman Invernenty (9320) (Tacksman Invernenty Braes of Balqur one son Robt, Cottager, Allanna break Aberfoil who hath one son a a shoemaker in Callander); married Elizabeth Carmichael (9330) 23 Aug 1755 Balquhidder, Perth
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August 23d
Contracted Alexander Stewart in this parish and Elisabeth Carmichael in the parish of Muthil?).

Children of Alexander Stewart Tacksman Invernenty (9320) and Elizabeth Carmichael (9330) all born in Easter Innernenty, Balquhidder, Perth, were as follows:
i. Jean (9333); baptized 17 Oct 1756.
ii. Catherine (9332); baptized 25 Jun 1759.
iii. Duncan (9331); baptized 30 Apr 1761.

Children of Alexander Stewart Tacksman Invernenty (9320) and Margaret McIntyre (9329) were:
i. Robert (9328); born illegitimate 9 Mar 1756 in Invernenty, Balquhidder, Perth
(1756
March 9th
Alexander Stewart in Invernenty and Margaret McIntyre had a son in fornication baptized and called Robert. Dun. Stewart in Achleskine sponsor.)

From the dates, it looks as though Alexander had a liaison with Margaret McIntyre about June 1755, but married Elisabeth Carmichael in August. Then Robert was born illigitimately in March 1756 and his first lawful child Jean was born in October that year. This must have been a bit embarrassing for all concerned.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Glenbucky Branch II Reply with quote

Belinda wrote:
This must have been a bit embarrassing for all concerned.
Actually with each new line we research it's looking more an more commonplace! a_chuckle

P.S. - Thanks for your work on the above family. I agree with your accounting. I will add this family to the database and the Glenbuckie page in a future update.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belinda

It's only been a year and a half since you posted this note, but I'm finally getting to enter this family and on second look it's not looking like as good a fit as I'd first thought.

The challenge is that there are other births to Alexander Stewart and Margaret McIntyre elsewhere in Balquhidder at the time:

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Alexander STEWART and Margaret MCINTYRE in Lianach, Invernenty, and Gartnafuaran
1. Katharine STEWART, bap. 20 DEC 1753 in Lianach
2. Isobell STEWART, bap. 3 JAN 1755 in Lianach
3. Robert STEWART, bap. 9 MAR 1756 in Invernenty (conceived in fornication, sponsored by Duncan Stewart in Auchleskine. May not be the same family. There was another Alexander Stewart in Invernenty at the time.)
4. Janet STEWART, bap. 29 MAR 1757 in (illegible) of Glenbuchky
5. Robert STEWART, bap. 6 JUL 1759 in Gartnafuaran


This is definitely a strange collection of births. There's no marriage for this couple, but why would only the third child be recorded as illegitimate? Is this, in fact, two couples with the same names? Presumably the illegible portion of the birth place for the 4th child, Janet, is also Lianach as with the first two births. That fits as the primary residence for Branch II of Glenbuckie was Lianach. Alexander's father, James, was "in Lianach" and thus Alexander probably began his life there.

Could the sponsor, Duncan Stewart in Auchleskine, be Alexander's older brother: Duncan Stewart in Aldenbreg?

And then there are the other Invernenty births that you noted above:
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Alexander STEWART and Elisabeth CARMICHAEL in Easter Invernenty, m. 23 AUG 1755 in Balquhidder, with Alexander from Balquhidder parish and Elisabeth from Muthill parish.
1. Jean STEWART, bap. 17 OCT 1756 in Easter Innernenty
2. Catharine STEWART, bap. 25 JUN 1759 in Easter Innernenty
3. Duncan STEWART, bap. 30 APR 1761 in Easter Innernenty


The problem here is onomastics: Alexander of Glenbuckie Branch II was the son of James Stewart in Lianach, but this Alexander's eldest son is Duncan and he appears to have no son named James at all.

In fact, I can only find one James, son of Alexander in an Invernenty family:
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Alexander STEWART and Janet STEWART in Invernenty. m. 28 FEB 1767 in Balquhidder (Alexander of Balquhidder parish and Janet of Callander parish). It's not certain that the Port of Menteith births below are from the same family but there is no second marriage noted and the chronology fits nicely.
1. Robert STEWART, bap. 4 FEB 1768 in Innernenty
2. James STEWART, bap. 2 JAN 1770 in Innernenty
3. David STEWART, bap. 5 MAY 1771 in Innernenty
4. John STEWART, bap. 19 AUG 1772 in Port of Menteith parish
5. John STEWART, bap. 16 JUL 1773 in Port of Menteith parish
6. Alexander STUART, bap. 25 AUG 1775 in Port of Menteith parish
7. Alexander STUART, bap. 25 AUG 1778 in Port of Menteith parish
8. James STEWART, bap. 10 JUN 1781 in Port of Menteith parish
9. Walter STEWART, bap. 20 JUL 1784 in Port of Menteith parish
10. Charles Dugald STUART, bap. 21 FEB 1790 in Port of Menteith parish

The fact that this family ends up in Port of Menteith sort of fits with the description of Alexander from Branch II who ends up in Aberfoyle. But Alexander from Branch II had only one (surviving) son, Robert. I find it a REAL stretch to believe that he could have had 10 sons and only 1 survived! So I'm doubtful this is the correct family.

Maybe there were two different Alexanders who were involved with two different Margaret McIntyres (or the same Margaret Surprised !) and maybe Alexander of Glenbuckie II only had the illegitimate Robert and no other child. Stewarts of the South only records the one son. Maybe that's all there was. Scratchy, scratchy
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